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maverick180 9:05 Sun Mar 17
Corrupt officiating

A point that seems to of been missed

Antonio’s goal could not be seen from any angle whether it definitely came off his stomach or his arm, therefore should never have been disallowed
However VAR made the decision to straight up disallow it

Souceks goal definitely could be seen to strike his arm, that was the one that was the correct decision
However, VAR called over the ref this time to make the decision
Does nobody else find that highly suspicious?
For me that is what someone would do who’s already made a bent decision and not trying to further put themself in the spotlight

Cony Tottee 10:31 Sun Mar 17
Re: Corrupt officiating

The difference was that Antonia scored so any contact with the arm is no goal, even accidental. As Soucek's hit Bowen before it went in it can only be disallowed if the ref thinks it was intentional by Soucek which is why he was sent to the monitor.

norwaytips 10:56 Sun Mar 17
Re: Corrupt officiating

Corrupt? Really: and who do you think was paying for, or organising this corruption: and for what purpose?

maverick180 11:25 Sun Mar 17
Re: Corrupt officiating

SPECTRE

maverick180 11:30 Sun Mar 17
Re: Corrupt officiating

The purpose would obviously be money
Who’s behind it? No idea
I’ve no idea who was behind paying Bruce Grobelaar or Hans Segers to try and throw games in this country but it happened
I’ve no idea who was behind paying officials in other countries to get the desired result they wanted but again it has happened
Officials in this country are never investigated no matter how bizarre the decisions they make are
Don’t know why people are so sure it doesn’t happen here

only1billybonds 11:51 Sun Mar 17
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Nothing to do with corruption. VAR has given officials the green light to be absolved of on field resonsibility, coupled with the gross incompetence of those viewing the 'incidents'

All this talk of corruption is bollox.

Surely, if there were ' hot balls' in cup draws, Liverpool would have played Coventry and Manchester United would have been home to Leicester?.

Stop feeling hard done by and see the situation for what it is.

maverick180 11:57 Sun Mar 17
Re: Corrupt officiating

Nothing to do with feeling hard done by
I see it week in, week out in other matches that don’t involve just West Ham
If it’s not corruption then it’s down to complete and utter incompetency
The problem is there’s nothing in place to stop this
Until there’s some sort of accountability for these officials making mistakes on VAR where they have zero excuse I’m not gonna be convinced there isn’t more to it

onsideman 12:16 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

Antonio 'goal' hit his elbow
Soucek 'goal' put in with his arm (after an air-shot)
Kudus 'goal' whistle blew before the shot, so no VAR. Looked like a poor decision to me, but Gillet is hopeless anyway

percyd 4:17 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

There has to be a time-limit imposed on the VAR/screen viewing process. 30 secs for VAR with an additional 30 if the ref needs to look at the screen.

In terms of 'goals', if an offence cannot be determined within that time frame, then it is obviously not "clear and obvious".

Manuel 4:35 Mon Mar 18
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Man, you need to get out more, embarrassing post. Cony Tottee explains it well in the first reply, that's the difference between you and him, he understands the rules and you don't. Brush up a bit, before before unleashing with this nonsense.

maverick180 10:24 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

Don’t tell me what to do you self righteous cunt

maverick180 10:27 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

Turns out I was wrong in the sense that the ref actually wanted to take a look for himself
So before you start telling me how you know the rules better than me and I should brush up on it, perhaps you should take your own advice and realise you don’t understand them yourself as VAR was telling the ref no goal
I was wrong
So are you, doubt you’ll admit that though

Iron Duke 10:34 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

The problems with VAR are that it often takes too long and kills the game, and that it is very selective about which incidents to review, for how long, and from how many angles. Take the disallowed Soucek goal. It must have taken five minutes and they looked at more angles until they could find one that backed their final decision. It was as if they scoured the crowd looking for people’s iphone coverage. Then, other times they somehow don’t have any other angles.

On top of that, the media are very selective on what they report. The Burnley handball last week hardly got a mention, but every media outlet reported how Emerson was lucky not to give away a penalty for handball. One hadball decision out of six goes for us and that is the one they want to talk about.

BRANDED 10:43 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

Before VAR we’ve won that game.

I dont think its corrupt. Just poor in every metric. He gets the decision “wrong” and then the Var officials dont have absolute clarity. Just poor.

In the ground its soul destroying.

Willtell 10:53 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

It's not often I say this but absolutely correct BRANDED.

I think it's just a microcosm of UK life. Good idea fucked up by officials too up their own arses to get it right with rugby showing the way...

Manuel 11:02 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

When the late goal went it I didn't move, you just knew among that melee there was bound to either be a handball, an offside, or a foul. When watching all the replays I felt it was 50/50 as nothing seemed 'clear and obvious' but of course they were determined to rule it out, I suspect they see it as their job to do so.

Pedro 11:04 Mon Mar 18
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The one very strange thing was why the ref was sent the screen only for the last minute goal.

I thought he had to look at all decisions other than offside? If not then there is a question mark as to who is actually reffing the game.

The handball law seems to change every week and isn’t it different rules in different boxes.

Anyway what annoys me is they have had to change rules to suit var. they say who it’s the rules. But the rules are different now we have var. so instead of deliberate handball we have this natural position / ball to hand nonsense.

Pedro 11:09 Mon Mar 18
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Manuel agreed

The antonio one was a case in point


Martinez pretended to be hurt as to create need to check the goal.

Then amazingly the review is for a handball and not a foul. They look for any reason not to give a goal.

You can probably find a reason to disallow every goal now if you wanted to.


The premier league also don’t pay for the semi automated systems we see in europa and also the World Cup. It’s much quicker and removes the human element.

Issue yesterday was you probably had the ref and 4 var people all having different opinions.
I bet half the var people thought the goals should have been given.

Then next week we will see goals given for the same thing. That’s the frustration.

Manuel 11:14 Mon Mar 18
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Pedro - Sure, in the last world cup var barely featured. It does seem to be a huge clusterfuck in the PL.

Willtell 11:39 Mon Mar 18
Re: Corrupt officiating

Football grew and prospered for 150 years in UK but I fear for it when bureaucratic officials start dictating new rules.

The rules were always sensible in that accidental ball to arm was not a foul. If the ref and linesman doesn't see it, it didn't happen.

The trouble then becomes referees that make inconsistent penalising of that rule. It's now so ridiculous where officials don't see a handball so 5 minutes of replays on tv gets a decision that is just as contentious but spoils the flow of the game.

How does rugby get it so right and football so wrong?

Mike Oxsaw 11:51 Mon Mar 18
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What on earth will people do with all that "dead time" waiting for VAR to come up with their ruling?

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